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    Reunion 11 and "Evidence Explained" 3d Ed.

    Searching ReunionTalk, I find Frank Leister states that Reunion is not built around Elizabeth Shown Mills' source citation framework. That makes sense. Various members here explain different reasons and approaches. These also make sense.

    I'm proposing a different question.

    I'm familiar with "Evidence!" (1997) and have long been using her first edition of "Evidence Explained" (2007). Both Legacy Family Tree (Windows) and Family Tree Maker (Windows) have made attempts to create source citation templates/systems based on Mills' recommendations.

    I've purchased "Evidence Explained" (3rd ed.) to work from as I convert over to Reunion 11. I'm expecting to use Reunion's "free form" source format so that I can word things as closely to EE as possible. (I am opting for a formal approach with an eye to publishing.)

    Question: Does anyone else have experience/suggestions for using Mills' third-edition approach with Reunion?

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    Re: Reunion 11 and "Evidence Explained" 3d Ed.

    Originally posted by Edward Barnard View Post
    Searching ReunionTalk, I find Frank Leister states that Reunion is not built around Elizabeth Shown Mills' source citation framework. That makes sense. Various members here explain different reasons and approaches. These also make sense.

    I'm proposing a different question.

    I'm familiar with "Evidence!" (1997) and have long been using her first edition of "Evidence Explained" (2007). Both Legacy Family Tree (Windows) and Family Tree Maker (Windows) have made attempts to create source citation templates/systems based on Mills' recommendations.

    I've purchased "Evidence Explained" (3rd ed.) to work from as I convert over to Reunion 11. I'm expecting to use Reunion's "free form" source format so that I can word things as closely to EE as possible. (I am opting for a formal approach with an eye to publishing.)

    Question: Does anyone else have experience/suggestions for using Mills' third-edition approach with Reunion?
    I have edited most of the source templates in Reunion, not just free form, to align with EE as much as I can. It takes a while, but I did it as part of reviewing all of my sources (about 500) and creating correct citations for each one. Now that each template has the fields I want in the order I want, creating new citations is very easy.
    Lynda C.
    Researching Kemble, Pryor, Gradwell, Cooper and lots more.

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      #3
      Re: Reunion 11 and "Evidence Explained" 3d Ed.

      Originally posted by Lynda View Post
      I have edited most of the source templates in Reunion, not just free form, to align with EE as much as I can. It takes a while, but I did it as part of reviewing all of my sources (about 500) and creating correct citations for each one. Now that each template has the fields I want in the order I want, creating new citations is very easy.
      Lynda,

      Would you be willing to share some of your source templates if sharing were possible?

      Thanks,

      Jeff
      Mac OS X 10.12.3, Reunion 11.0.11
      http://www.thefamilyofmichaelmccormack.wordpress.com

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        #4
        Re: Reunion 11 and "Evidence Explained" 3d Ed.

        Originally posted by Cormac View Post
        Lynda,

        Would you be willing to share some of your source templates if sharing were possible?

        Thanks,

        Jeff
        If it were possible, I'd appreciate that as well!

        Derrick
        Derrick
        pitard.net

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          #5
          Re: Reunion 11 and "Evidence Explained" 3d Ed.

          Originally posted by Lynda View Post
          I have edited most of the source templates in Reunion, not just free form, to align with EE as much as I can. It takes a while, but I did it as part of reviewing all of my sources (about 500) and creating correct citations for each one. Now that each template has the fields I want in the order I want, creating new citations is very easy.
          Hello Lynda,

          I'd appreciate it very much, if you would be willing to share your source templates.

          Regards
          Reiner
          SauerRL@me.com ? info@reunion-de.de
          Web: http://www.schevenhuette.com
          Web: http://www.reunion-de.de

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            #6
            Re: Reunion 11 and "Evidence Explained" 3d Ed.

            Originally posted by Cormac View Post
            Lynda,

            Would you be willing to share some of your source templates if sharing were possible?

            Thanks,

            Jeff
            Unfortunately the sharing of source templates is not possible via Reunion. That said, each source template in Reunion is completely customizable and can be made to “conform” to Evidence Explained.

            As noted by another member of this thread, the process takes time to accomplish. The results, however, are worth the effort! For that matter, you can even add custom fields to sources that you can use (and) keep hidden in reports!

            Over the course of using Reunion for more than ten years now, I spent well over 200 hours of my time tweaking the source fields to meet my needs ¬– mostly in preparation for professional publication. I have since successfully published that book and am very happy with the results.

            Anyone interested in having a copy of my Excel sheet of source fields may email me off-list at: <apalmer6 AT Verizon.net>.
            Arnold
            -----
            RESEARCHING: FRIESLAND (Holland); NEW BRUNSWICK (Canada); Maine, NYS & NJ (USA)

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              #7
              Re: Reunion 11 and &quot;Evidence Explained&quot; 3d Ed.

              Originally posted by AE Palmer View Post
              Unfortunately the sharing of source templates is not possible via Reunion.
              You could create a Clone of your family file, which will contain no data, but will have all the Sources set up as you have them now and share that...

              Roger
              Roger Moffat
              http://lisaandroger.com/genealogy/
              http://genealogy.clanmoffat.org/

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                #8
                Re: Reunion 11 and &quot;Evidence Explained&quot; 3d Ed.

                Originally posted by theKiwi View Post
                You could create a Clone of your family file, which will contain no data, but will have all the Sources set up as you have them now and share that...

                Roger
                Yes. I have used the clone feature more than once. But I do believce the OP and others want to add custom source templates to existing data sets. AFAIK, the only way that can happen is to modify each source type individually. :^(
                Arnold
                -----
                RESEARCHING: FRIESLAND (Holland); NEW BRUNSWICK (Canada); Maine, NYS & NJ (USA)

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                  #9
                  Re: Reunion 11 and &quot;Evidence Explained&quot; 3d Ed.

                  Originally posted by Lynda View Post
                  I have edited most of the source templates in Reunion, not just free form, to align with EE as much as I can. It takes a while, but I did it as part of reviewing all of my sources (about 500) and creating correct citations for each one. Now that each template has the fields I want in the order I want, creating new citations is very easy.

                  Lynda, would you be willing to share a clone copy of your file with the EE source templates? Perhaps it should be made an optional download on the Reunion site!
                  Bradley Jansen
                  OS 10.15.2 on a MacBook Pro using Reunion 12 and ReunionTouch 1.0.9

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                    #10
                    Re: Reunion 11 and &quot;Evidence Explained&quot; 3d Ed.

                    Originally posted by AE Palmer View Post
                    Yes. I have used the clone feature more than once. But I do believce the OP and others want to add custom source templates to existing data sets. AFAIK, the only way that can happen is to modify each source type individually. :^(
                    No, you could take your clone file with the templates in place, and then create a single person, and attach each source to that person then import that to your main family file and all of the (used) sources would import to your family file too.

                    Roger
                    Roger Moffat
                    http://lisaandroger.com/genealogy/
                    http://genealogy.clanmoffat.org/

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                      #11
                      Re: Reunion 11 and &quot;Evidence Explained&quot; 3d Ed.

                      Originally posted by B Jansen View Post
                      Lynda, would you be willing to share a clone copy of your file with the EE source templates? Perhaps it should be made an optional download on the Reunion site!
                      That would be great!
                      Researching DEBEE, FRERICHS/FREDERICKS, HAHNENENKAMP, JANCO, KOLK, PETRINI, WEISS

                      http://familytreesandbranches.weebly.com
                      http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.....com/~ilrootz/

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                        #12
                        Re: Reunion 11 and &quot;Evidence Explained&quot; 3d Ed.

                        Originally posted by theKiwi View Post
                        No, you could take your clone file with the templates in place, and then create a single person, and attach each source to that person then import that to your main family file and all of the (used) sources would import to your family file too.

                        Roger
                        I would find that to be somewhat messy.
                        Arnold
                        -----
                        RESEARCHING: FRIESLAND (Holland); NEW BRUNSWICK (Canada); Maine, NYS & NJ (USA)

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                          #13
                          Re: Reunion 11 and &quot;Evidence Explained&quot; 3d Ed.

                          Originally posted by AE Palmer View Post
                          I would find that to be somewhat messy.
                          Dear Arnold,

                          Are you just being difficult, or what's the problem with releasing your "Evidence Explained" templates, which you claim you have created?

                          Regards

                          Reiner Sauer
                          SauerRL@me.com ? info@reunion-de.de
                          Web: http://www.schevenhuette.com
                          Web: http://www.reunion-de.de

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                            #14
                            Re: Reunion 11 and &quot;Evidence Explained&quot; 3d Ed.

                            Originally posted by Reiner L. Sauer View Post
                            Dear Arnold
                            Are you just being difficult, or what's the problem with releasing your "Evidence Explained" templates, which you claim you have created?
                            I think it was Lynda who originally posted about her templates, Reiner.
                            FWIW, don't get too hung up on ESM. Have a look around, there's plenty of other (and IMHO) better ways for source citations.
                            Jan Powell
                            in Wellington, New Zealand
                            http://www.rellyseeker.nz/
                            --
                            Apple/Mac since 1987, Reunion since 1993

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                              #15
                              Re: Reunion 11 and &quot;Evidence Explained&quot; 3d Ed.

                              Originally posted by Jan Powell View Post
                              I think it was Lynda who originally posted about her templates, Reiner.
                              FWIW, don't get too hung up on ESM. Have a look around, there's plenty of other (and IMHO) better ways for source citations.
                              Sorry, I apologize for having directed my comment to Arnold; obviously it should have been directed to Lynda.
                              As you may know, the sources-situation appears to be somewhat different in Europe, compared to the situation in other countries. Unfortunately, I have so far not been able to find European Legacy-users (where ESM is supposedly integrated), who understand the complex means of automatic source generations and who are satisfied with ESM.
                              I've red and studied ESM a number of times and must admit that – although it appears a very comprehensive scientific work - I'm unable to grasp it and integrate it within Reunion. That's why I'm interested to learn about an easy solution, but, at the same time I get frustrated when the proposed solution is just a teaser.
                              Regards
                              Reiner
                              SauerRL@me.com ? info@reunion-de.de
                              Web: http://www.schevenhuette.com
                              Web: http://www.reunion-de.de

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