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Old 10 December 2018, 03:18 PM
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Gato, ReunionTalk is now delivered to a Mail.app Trash folder for me, too. Not sure how long; maybe 6 mo?

I've had this AOL account more than 25 years. AFAIK, the setup hasn't been changed in the last 3 years or so, except macOS and iOS updates. That means High Sierra / iCloud integration, though. I presumed something was changing on AOL's end as a result of their push to return to a paid service.

Anyway, Junk and Trash are set to be deleted manually, so it's not lost - just have to go fetch.
Apple made a change that tells Mail to no longer recognize emails from/to AOL.com as a valid address. I discovered this when I found out that emails I sent to an AOL addressee using my Dot Mac address were not being delivered and emails I sent to me.com or mac.com from my AOL address were also not being delivered. Investigation revealed the Mail servers are marking them as "invalid" or "spam".

BTW, I have you beat: 29.92 years with AOL (this includes the AL-PE time) and am probably the LAST Charter Member of AOL still with them. When you have had an email address as long as you and I have, it is impossible to just drop it unless there is a forwarding period.
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Old 11 December 2018, 03:06 PM
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It is the free AOL email that is terminating. One has to upgrade to AOL Desktop Gold to keep using AOL email. AOL started notifying users in late 2017 as I recall.
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Old 11 December 2018, 03:31 PM
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It is the free AOL email that is terminating. One has to upgrade to AOL Desktop Gold to keep using AOL email. AOL started notifying users in late 2017 as I recall.
Bob, there isn't a Mac AOL Desktop Gold version. When you go to download ADG you get this message (as of 11 Dec 18):

"I'm sorry, at this time, AOL Desktop Gold is not available for MAC Operating Systems. AOL Desktop Gold must be downloaded on your Windows PC. Go to get.aol.com/aol-desktop-gold on your PC to complete the download process."

Also, I have never received an email from AOL telling me my 30 year old account is being terminated.
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Old 11 December 2018, 09:19 PM
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It is the free AOL email that is terminating. One has to upgrade to AOL Desktop Gold to keep using AOL email. AOL started notifying users in late 2017 as I recall.
This is the first I've heard of this. I've been with AOL since my old Apple IIc days. Changed to the 'free' version maybe 10 years ago. Have never had a problem using my AOL address.

If they discontinue it, which I have never heard of, I'll have to take a skydive without a parachute---I've got my address out there to 1000's of people/sites/businesses, etc.
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Old 11 December 2018, 09:40 PM
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This is the first I've heard of this. I've been with AOL since my old Apple IIc days. Changed to the 'free' version maybe 10 years ago. Have never had a problem using my AOL address.

If they discontinue it, which I have never heard of, I'll have to take a skydive without a parachute---I've got my address out there to 1000's of people/sites/businesses, etc.
Yep, I started with AppleLink-Personal Edition which was renamed AOL when Apple pulled out in October 1989. Have been with AOL ever since. I have the cheapest paid version as I've had to periodically fall back to a dial up connection when my ISP goes down. IIRC, I got AL-PE software for free when I bought a High Speed modem: 2400 baud (bps)!
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Old 11 December 2018, 09:45 PM
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This is the first I've heard of this. I've been with AOL since my old Apple IIc days. Changed to the 'free' version maybe 10 years ago. Have never had a problem using my AOL address.

If they discontinue it, which I have never heard of, I'll have to take a skydive without a parachute---I've got my address out there to 1000's of people/sites/businesses, etc.
Actually it is the free Windows DESKTOP AOL that is being discontinued, as far as I can tell from the various posts online. The webmail and mobile app versions are staying, but Windows users will now have to pay a monthly rate again for DESKTOP software.
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It is the free AOL email that is terminating. One has to upgrade to AOL Desktop Gold to keep using AOL email. AOL started notifying users in late 2017 as I recall.
Bob, are you sure about timing? Apart from requests to acknowledge their GDPR T's&C's, I've heard nothing from them. Same with Yahoo. Both now owned by Oath [Verizon].
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Old 12 December 2018, 10:58 AM
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Apple made a change that tells Mail to no longer recognize emails from/to AOL.com as a valid address. I discovered this when I found out that emails I sent to an AOL addressee using my Dot Mac address were not being delivered and emails I sent to me.com or mac.com from my AOL address were also not being delivered. Investigation revealed the Mail servers are marking them as "invalid" or "spam".
That might be a consequence of Apple deprecating or decommissioning Mac.com and me.com. See https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201771

When support is gone, mail to/from those addresses will legitimately be spam to AOL. For now, my family still uses 5 AOL accounts (except my daughter, who says it's up-hip) via Mail.app every day.

On that: AOL mail has occasional operational issues where it rejects valid user credentials. Mail.app alerts with a password request, but I found it best just to wait until it fixes itself, rather than having it turn into the almost inevitable password reset go-round on every device. I access AOL on the web ONLY to change passwords.


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BTW, I have you beat: 29.92 years with AOL (this includes the AL-PE time) and am probably the LAST Charter Member of AOL still with them. When you have had an email address as long as you and I have, it is impossible to just drop it unless there is a forwarding period.
Agreed! I keep it for the occasional genealogy contact or from a long-ago post. And to tweak my daughter's nose I tell her it's my 'retro' look. :>)

But avoiding the website and using Mail.app, it works as well as any other, and probably gives away less info than using a Google product.
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Old 12 December 2018, 12:06 PM
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That might be a consequence of Apple deprecating or decommissioning Mac.com and me.com. See https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201771
That link just tells you which email addresses you can use to sign in to your iCloud account depending on when you first created an account. I'm in the group with three valid email addresses, but I never used the me.com nor the icloud.com ones. I've stayed with mac.com


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Agreed. [What was AL-PE? I started with a paid account for dial-up access to their phones, using an AOL app.]
Apple Link - Personal Edition. In 1988 Apple contracted with Quantum Computer Services (QCS) to create a consumer version of Apple's in-house AppleLink system used for vendors and developers. It went live in August 1988.

At AppleFest 1988 in San Francisco, I bought a high-speed modem and got the AL-PE software for free. The modem ran at a blazing 2400 baud! In October of 1989, Apple pulled out of the agreement so QCS renamed the service "America OnLine" and quickly rewrote their similar service for PCs to work on the until then Apple II & Mac service. Trivia: Apple later regretted their departure and tried to replicate the service with "eWorld".
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Yep, I started with AppleLink-Personal Edition which was renamed AOL when Apple pulled out in October 1989. Have been with AOL ever since. I have the cheapest paid version as I've had to periodically fall back to a dial up connection when my ISP goes down. IIRC, I got AL-PE software for free when I bought a High Speed modem: 2400 baud (bps)!
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