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cii1072
01 January 2007, 03:56 PM
Does anyone have any creative ideas to display mapping of the migration of a family or families. I would like some type of visual map which could show the overall flow of migration of my family; i.e. John Doe born in blank. Mary Smith born in blank. John marries Mary in blank. they migrate to state X in blank and have John Doe Jr. Then have family Y (with their facts having Blank. Blank and John Doe Jr. meet and marry on date blank. They migrate........on and on.

In other words it would entail multiple scenarios of the above which could be mapped.

Hope this isn't too hard to follow what I am inquiring about.

Any ideas??

marnen
01 January 2007, 11:47 PM
Try GraphViz (http://www.pixelglow.com/graphviz/); it's great for this sort of thing.

Ian H. Fraser
03 January 2007, 11:15 AM
You might also want to take a look at Map Your Ancestors (http://www.mapyourancestors.com) on the web. It integrates with Google Maps to show migration.

marnen
04 January 2007, 07:22 PM
That site looks promising. It would be nice if it took GEDCOM files, though.

martha
06 January 2007, 03:37 AM
Try GraphViz (http://www.pixelglow.com/graphviz/); it's great for this sort of thing.

When I downloaded that and looked at it, clearly it was not something for someone who is not a programmer. It looks wonderful if one could figure out what to do with it, but it has no instructions.

Martha

marnen
07 January 2007, 02:54 PM
Of course it has instructions. See the documentation at http://www.graphviz.org .

martha
10 January 2007, 02:22 AM
Of course it has instructions. See the documentation at http://www.graphviz.org .

Call me dense, but I do not find instructions there and cannot understand half of what they write! But thanks anyway, Marnen.

Martha

marnen
10 January 2007, 03:55 AM
OK, I'll call you dense. :) Instructions are at the Documentation link (see it there in the blue box on the left?) -- direct URL is http://www.graphviz.org/Documentation.php . Start with http://www.graphviz.org/Documentation/dotguide.pdf and http://www.graphviz.org/doc/info/lang.html .

Granted, the docs are not that well written, but they do work -- I learned to use this program with the docs and no other help. And be aware that the docs make this look a lot harder than it is. It's actually quite simple to use.

martha
11 January 2007, 03:29 AM
OK, I'll call you dense. :) Instructions are at the Documentation link (see it there in the blue box on the left?) -- direct URL is http://www.graphviz.org/Documentation.php . Start with http://www.graphviz.org/Documentation/dotguide.pdf and http://www.graphviz.org/doc/info/lang.html .

Granted, the docs are not that well written, but they do work -- I learned to use this program with the docs and no other help. And be aware that the docs make this look a lot harder than it is. It's actually quite simple to use.

Marnen, you are too cute! I knew you would take me up on calling me dense, and who can argue with the truth! While you are a programmer, I am an historian and I cannot for the life of me make out those instructions on the dot doc!

Martha

marnen
11 January 2007, 02:17 PM
Understood. I just found what you may need: a clearer tutorial here (http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/05/06/graphviz_dot.html). This should explain the language syntax pretty well. Just ignore where it talks about running dot or dotty from the command line, since the Mac frontend will take care of that. If you need help, let me know.

And don't worry about not being a programmer. All you need is a certain amount of logical thinking and a belief that this is not beyond your capabilities.

martha
12 January 2007, 05:23 AM
Understood. I just found what you may need: a clearer tutorial here (http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/05/06/graphviz_dot.html). This should explain the language syntax pretty well. Just ignore where it talks about running dot or dotty from the command line, since the Mac frontend will take care of that. If you need help, let me know.

And don't worry about not being a programmer. All you need is a certain amount of logical thinking and a belief that this is not beyond your capabilities.

Thanks, Marnen! That was understandable and gave enough of the concept so that I could follow it!

Martha

Pat Bell
20 January 2007, 03:46 PM
Try GraphViz (http://www.pixelglow.com/graphviz/); it's great for this sort of thing.

Thanks so much for that tip! I've downloaded it (as a Mac user) and am looking forward to using it.

Kim R
18 April 2007, 03:35 AM
Has anyone created a Migration Map using graphviz? I'm not understanding how one would show how an ancestor moved around the world with this program......

I was interested with Map Your Ancestors but for the life of me can not figure out how to get it to work.

Does anyone have any other mapping ideas?

dfilpus
18 April 2007, 08:22 AM
Has anyone created a Migration Map using graphviz? I'm not understanding how one would show how an ancestor moved around the world with this program......

I was interested with Map Your Ancestors but for the life of me can not figure out how to get it to work.

Does anyone have any other mapping ideas?

Take a look at the Latitude and Longitude thread, http://www.reuniontalk.com/showthread.php?t=2723
At the end of the thread, there is a discussion of maps.

Doctort
13 May 2007, 04:53 AM
I've been using Google Earth. Right now I have bookmarks for the about 130 immigrant ancestors whose places of origin are known. These ancestors all came to New England from the British Isles in the 1600s and 1700s with a couple from the early 1800s. These 130 people represent about a third of my identified immigrant ancestors. (At this time, I have not set up marks for children of immigrant ancestors who were also immigrant ancestors themselves). It took me one or two evenings to create these bookmarks, having some time ago created a flag in Reunion to track immigrant ancestors and using the search function in Google Earth to find the locations, although I had to use maps to find some locations not found by Google Earth.

I have set the size of the bookmarks to be dependant on the number of ancestors from that location, so a larger bookmark means more ancestors from that town. Right now, bookmarks are organized by country and county. I place the ancestor's name(s) and the name of the spouse in the comment field of the bookmark. It would have been easy to create family or surname based bookmarks rather than or in addition to the geographic ones.

I have not yet color coded the marks for which branch of the family the ancestor belongs to, although I have thought about it. Basically, one color for each grandparent's line, for example. However, many of my immigrant ancestors are common ancestors of two or three of my grandparents (I have not yet identified an ancestor common to all four grandparents), so I haven't completely thought this one through, but it would be easy enough to modify the bookmarks. What I might eventually do, at least, is to create a set of marks for each grandparent so I could toggle these sets on and see the different origins for each family.

I have started another set of bookmarks for an earlier generation

Given time and energy, I would like to make sets for more generations. Also, I eventually want to track movement in the United States.

As each set of bookmarks is in its own folder, I can toggle sets on or off to see differences or to overlay sets.